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 Deputy James Hanberry, right, stands guard Thursday at Good Day Market in Kalama while a Cowlitz-Wahkiakum Narcotics Task Force detective enters the store during service of a search warrant. Detectives arrested the owner and his son on suspicion of dealing marijuana. Leslie Slape / The Daily News
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Father, son arrested in marijuana investigation
Friday, October 10, 2008 6:52 PM PDT
By Leslie Slape
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E-mail this articleKALAMA — Narcotics detectives arrested a longtime Kalama businessman and his son Thursday after a lengthy investigation into the sale of large amounts of marijuana, police said.
Sarbjit Singh Clar, 53, owner of Good Day Market, 334 North First St., was arrested at his store, said Capt. Don Barnd of the Longview Police Department. He was booked into the Cowlitz County Jail in lieu of $100,000 bail on suspicion of three counts of delivering marijuana, one count of conspiracy to deliver marijuana and one count of possession of marijuana with intent to deliver.
His son, Kuldeep Singh Clar, 29, was arrested in Castle Rock, where he owns a downtown business, One Way Market. His bail was set at $100,000 on suspicion of conspiracy to deliver marijuana.
Barnd said no other arrests are expected.
Agents then served search warrants at Good Day Market, at Clar’s auto shop behind it and at the Clars’ residence on Taylor Road in Kalama, Barnd said. No warrants were served in Castle Rock.
The market and auto shop are next door to the Kalama City Hall and catercorner from the Kalama Police Station.
The midday arrests attracted curious onlookers, including Dale Bergman, an 18-year resident of Kalama. He was going for a cup of coffee and instead sat down on a park bench outside the Chevron Food Mart to watch the goings-on.
Clar has owned the market since 1991, and Bergman has been a regular customer.
“I’ve seen him around town here and there,” Bergman said. “He’s always friendly to me, always real nice. He never offered to sell me drugs.”
But Sean Strock, 22, said Clar once asked him if he were interested in buying “tobacco,” curling his fingers in quotes around the word. Strock said he turned down the offer.
Strock said he’d stop in sometimes for pop or a snack after getting off work at RSG mill. Although it was after hours, the door was unlocked if Clar was still there stocking shelves, and Strock said Clar was always nice about letting him buy food.
Atrucker wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:12 PM:
" Sock it to them Baby.! Dealin out of their own store . What sort of !@#$ is that ? Sadly , god knows how long it went on. Throw the key away. "
bmc dennis wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:27 PM:
" wow three counts of and one count of conspiracy. I think that meth is a biger proplem than some weed. Lets spend more money on meth and less on some one selling weed. Meth creates more theft and damage than some guy stoned eating pogy bate and watching tv. I know how about stopping the people at 2 am in south kelso with flashlights and back packs riding stolen bikes. The kpd has only 3 officers on graveyard maybe the taskforce could help thme at knight. "
lola*in*longview wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:42 PM:
" Well BMC a drug is a drug. They can't just turn there head and say it's okay to sale pot. Also, maybe the father and son know a little about some meth dealers, bigger pot dealers, whatever and will work for the task force and get the bigger dealers, without arresting the little guy you won't get the big guy as fast or as easy. "
El Fuego wrote on Oct 9, 2008 1:50 PM:
" This sure frustrate me. I did a lot of business with Good Day Market when living in Kalama. Sarb Jit Sing Clar was always friendly and I liked to joke around with him and his employees. I had know idea this was going on. And here all that time, I just took him to be another struggling business trying to get by. I WISH I COULD TAKE ALL MY PAST BUSINESS BACK. Now that others and myself know, I wouldn't be surprised if his business fails . "
Mr. Bastinado wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:14 PM:
" WAY TO GO SERG...Right in front of the Kalama Police Dept. office! I was kinda wondering what the veggie was in the Hot Pockets that I bought there. Wow, not only could you buy Bud Light there but you could also buy Bud....Talk about a full-service Mini Mart. "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:19 PM:
" Anyone living in Kalama and doing business there knew EXACTLY what was going on if you had any common sense what so ever. With that being said, Surgi and Kuldeep are two of the nicest, and friendly people you could meet. If you are looking for their business to fail, you will be suprised to find just how many people will stand behind them. I lived in Kalama my entire life, and never once took part in drugs. Still.. visited that store on a daily basis to hear him greet me with a "Hi babe" and some kind of question as to how my family was doing. "
sparky wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:24 PM:
" "Will we still be able to buy food from this guy?", are you for real? I hope the people of Castle Rock and Kalama will not give another penny to either of these establishments. "
bmc dennis wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:32 PM:
" pogy bate is marine corp slang for junk food. I did not meen that pot was not bad is is just lets try and focus in on the harder more deadly drugs rather than something that is grown in the ground from natue. "
kalamaty wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:39 PM:
" Give me a break! Serg and his family are awesome, and I wish the ignorant people on this board would take a long look in the mirror, and get off their collective soap-boxes, before passing judgements. Just because they may have smoked a little weed, and maybe sold it, does that make them bad people? Who hasn't done something they may have regretted in their life? These are two good people - yes people who have made a mistake - but there are plenty of bigger fish to fry in this community; like the guy who just shot and killed a woman yesterday in Longview! Apples and Oranges people. I sincerely hope this doesn't adversely affect Sergie's family - or their business - because they are all very cool people who would do just about anything for anyone. I will continue to shop at their store, and hope you do the same. "
Onion Ring wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:41 PM:
" We have a store called One Way Market in CR? Huh. Never even heard of it. "
mom of four wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:43 PM:
" FYI SPARKY THERE ARE "BIG TIME" PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN THAT ARE JUST AS DISHONEST AND DRUG RIDDIN. THEY JUST HAVE THE MONEY TO HIDE IT BETTER. I AGREE MAYBE THEY CAN GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER DRUG DEALERS AND BRING DOWN ALL THE SELLERS ADND USERS. POT OR ANYOTHER DRUG IS JUST AN EXUSE TO BE A LOSER. "
Simple Man wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:52 PM:
" BMC dennnis if you want to stop meth you need to stop drug use at the root. About my fresman year me and all my friends smoked pot our first time. We continued till about my junior year then I quit and got away from the crowd. about %10 of that crowd kept with the pot. Can you guess where the rest are-they are the peoplein south kelso at 2 am with flashlights and back packs riding stolen bikes. Im not bashing you for saying more force needs to go into stopping meth but too many people dont understand the whole story. Bottom line is Marijuana is a gateway drug. "
figgerditout wrote on Oct 9, 2008 2:58 PM:
" These stores sells "Glass Art" that is used for smoking dope. How could you support a store that sells drug paraphinalia? They moved into Castle Rock, put bars on the windows to protect themselves from the very people they were selling drugs to. They deserve to lose the businesses. If you continue to support these very nice drug dealers, don't complain when your house or car gets broken into. "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:05 PM:
" So what they sold a little weed..from their stores..its just weed....its harmless...so what if they broke the law by dealing drugs??..so what if they sold to kids,??? probably..so what!!???!!!! By golly they are nice people!!!!! And that is all that counts!!! "
LongviewFam wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:07 PM:
" kalamaty: "Just because they may have smoked a little weed, and maybe sold it, does that make them bad people?" Uh, yeah. Kinda does. Smoking it makes them only stupid, but actually selling drugs to their fellow community members and customers makes them trafficking criminals and that is a bad person in most people's books. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. People make mistakes? Sure. Sadly, this is two grown men who clearly knew better and didn't care to stop. You gotta fry a few fish to get to the whales... "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:11 PM:
" I dont know about the Castle Rock location, but the Good Day didnt sell that type of paraphinalia. People need to quit stereo-typing these people. I realize that dealing drugs of ANY sort is not okay, but that is for the justice system to decide on. There are much worse criminals in Kalama that HAVE faced court time for much worse. Because of his family name-he walked! All or none people! "
bmc dennis wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:13 PM:
" simple man you are correct we need to stop the drug use at the root. However we need the police in this town to do a better job at policing and not following people from bars or pool halls and maybe get back into the neighborhoods. "
sparky wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:21 PM:
" Mom of Four, I don't need you "FYI" me. I am well aware of what's going on in this drug infested pit we live in. Selling drugs (yes, marijuana is a drug) out of your store is a sure way for you to lose my business. Oh yes, I know, I'm sooo judgemental, blah blah blah; everybody makes mistakes, blah blah blah, there are bigger fish to fry, blah, blah, blah. Hey, let's all stand up for the drug dealers because they're nice people who say hi to me. "
seriously wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:39 PM:
" Kalamaty, it doesn't make them bad people for smoking it, that's their business, but it does make them bad people for selling it. I for one don't think contributing to the drug problem is cool. And I don't care if it's only marijuana, as said in a couple of posts, a drug is a drug and marijuana is at the root of the problem. "
blogger mama wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:46 PM:
" Kalamaty -- Please give all of us law abiding citizens a break! Drug dealers are no good, low life scum! I hope everyone who hears about these arrests will no longer patronizes their businesses! "
rave on wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:50 PM:
" At least they invested their income in our community and I bet they paid their taxes....Wish we could say the same for the City Government, But they're too busy passing ordinances and changing zoning rules every time some one wants to invest a little in Kalama.Let em peddle their dope and let the buyers use it.
It's all about supply and demand...The bigger crime in this town is the government.
Sergie for mayor, and director of public works !!! "
It's all about supply and demand...The bigger crime in this town is the government.
Sergie for mayor, and director of public works !!! "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:53 PM:
" I would love to see who died and made all of you perfect. Its SO easy to place judgement and blame on everyone else. Like I have said, they were not right by doing this, but it doesnt make them "bad people".. I suppose all of you that have "sampled" candy out of the bulk bins are bad people too, since that is shoplifting. WOW.. It was a way of life, and making a living for this family- Still- WRONG, but really now.. Where are all of these opinions when other "kalamians" were convicted just last year... ?? "
kalamaty wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:54 PM:
" Know what? Selling drugs is not a smart thing to do; but I can personally guarantee you that more people smoke marijuana in this community than you might think. Yes, well respected, everyday people.... probably your next door neighbor. Does this make them bad people.... I strongly disagree. Not only that, but in the countries where pot is not illegal to purchase, or smoke; does that make people there "bad"? No, it's illegal to do so here, so there is a stigma attached to all of those who encounter/imbibe/or associate with those who do consume it. Ignorance needs to stop, but then again, I think I need to consider my audience here. "
nana 2 three wrote on Oct 9, 2008 3:55 PM:
" A drug dealer is scum of the earth! No matter how big or how small their operation is. If you choose to shop their businesses, you are just supporting their cover for criminal activity. Get a clue, people! Don't shop there! "
sparky wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:06 PM:
" I've seen it all! Did someone on this board really just compare dealing drugs to sneaking a sample out of the bins at a grocery store?! No wonder drug dealer love this area, ignorant people who will stand up for them on every corner. "
El Gabilon wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:15 PM:
" Marijuna should be legalized, taxed, and sold much as cigarettes. Millions could be saved in Washingon State by releasing from prison people who sold it, and increases in revenue could be made by taxing it, while law enforcement could concentrate on matters of more importance such as meth. Several businesses in Longview got their start from selling it. Thousands of tons of it are brought in from Mexico. Growning in the US would put illegal gowers out of business and put money into the treasury for needed programs. No matter what is done it is not going to go away and we are wasting billions on trying to stamp it out. It has been our observation that those who are against something and continue harping about it probably do it. As old Shakey once said: "Methinks he protests too much". "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:16 PM:
" THANK YOU kalamaty! That is exactly what everyone here needs to realize. There are so many "substances" out there that are legal here that have the same sort (or worse) effects. But because its not labeled as "illegal" its okay.. What about all the drunks out there that drink and drive EVERYDAY.. Why isnt beer illegal? Doesnt make a whole lot of sense now does it.. "
rave on wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:17 PM:
" At least they didn't plant any palm trees !!! And they didn't waste your tax dollars on beautification projects that continually need to be redone because they weren't planed well. "
Past chinook wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:25 PM:
" I was arguing the fact that just because something is "illegal" and someone does it, it doesnt make them a BAD PERSON. Pot is natural, and should be legalized. Plain and simple. "
outoftown wrote on Oct 9, 2008 4:33 PM:
" The bottom line is that we should all be thankful that these people are off the street now and are no longer distributing drugs to the community. To all of you folks that are complaining about this "drug infested pit"... be thankful that you live in the small towns that you do... you'd never survive in the Tacoma-Seattle area where there are wayyyy more trouble-makers and drugs than this. "
chinook66 wrote on Oct 9, 2008 5:19 PM:
" Right on Sparky.......sure the dealers are nice,why won't they be??????
Also, now minors don't have a place to buy there beer and pot. I do remember all the car crashes from drinking teens.
A law is a law is a law. Drugs illegal, no alcohol to minors, what don't you understand. This store has been illegal ever since they came here, I DON'T CARE how nice they are, I would be nice too if I was running drugs through my business.
I understand he doesn't even own the store, what's with that.??????All in All this is good for Kalama, bout time. "
Also, now minors don't have a place to buy there beer and pot. I do remember all the car crashes from drinking teens.
A law is a law is a law. Drugs illegal, no alcohol to minors, what don't you understand. This store has been illegal ever since they came here, I DON'T CARE how nice they are, I would be nice too if I was running drugs through my business.
I understand he doesn't even own the store, what's with that.??????All in All this is good for Kalama, bout time. "
DUH wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:47 PM:
" Ok, a little off subject here. Why cant there be some kind of registration system in place for drug offenders? Not necessarily pot offenders but more for meth, heroin, and cocaine. Send out fliers to those that live in the neighborhoods that these people live in so they are aware and know who to watch out for and be better informed. It would probably help out a lot with block watches too. Just a thought. "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:34 PM:
" LOL this has to be the funniest blog yet... grief. Give me a break. Those that feel pot should be legal, get a petition going, write your congress, representative and governor. Tell these people it would bring in massive revenues and get it legalized, quit smoking so much and get off your behinds and do something to make it legal. Denver county in colorado did. As long as the sellers report their income and pay their taxes, all is good. Almost like when I was growing up, could smoke one walking down the street, rolled in a pink strawberry e-z-wider paper (ahh those were the days, gone but not forgotten). "
bmoc wrote on Oct 9, 2008 8:13 PM:
" duh - doing drugs should not be considered criminal, but spying on your neighbors should be made a felony! "
Simple Man wrote on Oct 9, 2008 8:44 PM:
" Once again for all you pro stoners, none of these meth or heroin addicts started the hard stuff. Most of them didn't even start drinking alcohol first. It was pot. Pot is a gateway drug. You complain about law enforcement doing such a bad job cutting crime down but when they do something to take crime off the streets you still have something to complain about. Quit with the double standards already. "
CR RES. wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:20 PM:
" Good job law enforcement but they will probably get a slap on the hand just like the guy in longview who had the sophisticated grow operation and stole power. "
taffeta wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:22 PM:
" Past Chinook 300000.00 of Weed is not a small time dope dealer. 6 months of a business with new bars on the window in small town Castle Rock doesn't take a dimwit to figure it out either. These men wouldn't be bullys and rude-o's and make a profit. Lived in CR all my life. It's bout time they cleaned up these dirt bags. Cudo's to Chief Hauer and his team. "
bmack wrote on Oct 9, 2008 10:16 PM:
" Laws were broken, they will pay the penalty if convicted. What's the argument about? "
onmymind wrote on Oct 9, 2008 10:42 PM:
" I have to thank everyone for reminding me that charged equals guilty. Here we have been wasting all our time and money on those boring long trials. Maybe all of you should move to where its guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Oh wait, if it were you being charged maybe that wouldn't work out so well. "
CR Alumni wrote on Oct 9, 2008 11:08 PM:
" Have you guys thought, that maybe when they did the drug bust, that they were looking for more then just the marijuana at the time? And also, being a fellow law enforcement officer myself, marijuana can do damage specially when your driving under the influence of it and running a stop sign and almost t-boning a police officer and then getting into a pursuit. Food for thought. "
tushyturtle wrote on Oct 9, 2008 11:42 PM:
" In response to DUH.... Your comment fits your name ("Why cant there be some kind of registration system in place for drug offenders? Not necessarily pot offenders but more for meth, heroin, and cocaine. Send out fliers to those that live in the neighborhoods that these people live in so they are aware and know who to watch out for and be better informed) Why don't we put out fliers in the neighborhood for people that are ignorant, or not pretty enough, or how about don't meet our financial quotas, dress funny, talk funny. These people have made a mistake and hopefully will get a fair trial. Then they will pay for their mistake. They wouldnt be selling it if it wasnt in demand. They didnt tie anyone up in the back room, hold them down and blow smoke in their face. Get off your high horses! There is more smoke being blown up our rears at the town counsel meetings I am sure. If you thought they were nice before, well, Guess what... they still are nice. Good Luck with your troubles Serg and son.... Life long Kalamanite (yippee skippee) "
Atrucker wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:39 AM:
" It is not hard to see all the potheads are bloging on saying how good pot is and it is okay to deal in your business.
MY god listen to your selfs !
And there are a few that need to use spell check or something before posting
your say.
No , I am not MR perfect ! But At least try to get it sorta right .
If these people came from India they know better and know how their country would treat them for drug dealing . I am sure it is much harsher than here .
Until weed is legal , It is still not legal , other than medical use. Bottom line . "
MY god listen to your selfs !
And there are a few that need to use spell check or something before posting
your say.
No , I am not MR perfect ! But At least try to get it sorta right .
If these people came from India they know better and know how their country would treat them for drug dealing . I am sure it is much harsher than here .
Until weed is legal , It is still not legal , other than medical use. Bottom line . "
banana hammock wrote on Oct 10, 2008 5:36 AM:
" bmack, Laws are broken every day it is just some are ok to Break, lets say comming to our country illegal.It is agianst the law but not policed. and it will get worse. "
KelsoLesbian wrote on Oct 10, 2008 6:25 AM:
" Legalize it and this would not be a problem. Then it could be sold and TAXED. In this economy couldn't we use another source of revenue? Marijuana will be sold regardless of what the police do. "
victor61 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 6:28 AM:
" El Gabilon writes a good comment, the only thing I would like to add is that until intoxication by marijuana can be tested for by non-invasive means (IE breathalyzer)it doesn't make sense to legalize and tax it. When that happens, MANY good and respectable citizens will be able to quit living as criminals. "
Tortoise wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:00 AM:
" When you look at the smaller version of the article's picture on the front page, I thought the officers were wearing some kind of purple camouflage. Ha, if only. "
Bounder wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:21 AM:
" First off I'm not pro pot. But CR Alumni, give me a break. Are you telling me that ONLY people on marijuana run a stop sign? My wife was t-boned in an intersection by a older man (in his 60's) that was clean and sober. She wasn't even the first car to go through the intersection after the light changed. Should we outlaw older drivers as well? I'm also not saying stop the pot busts, but why don't we ever hear of meth busts? I can spot someone on meth just as easy as someone that is stoned. "
pilaf wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:26 AM:
" Well, at least it was a nice father/son family values enterprise. Way to get your own son in prison for a long time. "
onaprayer wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:35 AM:
" CR Aulumni-I guarantee you that "pot smokers" are way better drivers then even the soberist of us. Get off the ban wagon of how pot demoralizes communities. Alcohol is far more detremental to society-far more!!! Yet, it remaines to be legal-go figure. Alcohol is a huge money maker for our government and it effects ruin lives everyday. Weed smokers aren't out killing people while driving, beating up their spouses and kids or robbing others. If you look at other countries where pot is legal, they have a way lower rate of other street drugs-and yes, I did smoke weed but didn't inhale-GO MONARCHS!! "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:37 AM:
" taffeta: I dont think I ever mentioned it being a "small time dope dealer", and like I mentioned in the blog, I am unfamiliar with the CR location... CR and Kalama both have A LOT of cleaning up to do.. These two are a SMALL stepping stone... STILL doesnt make them "bad people". Just bad choices. "
alocalyokel wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:50 AM:
" 2 things.....
1} The Kalama police dept is directly across the street from The Good Day Market. Kudo's KPD-LOL
2) With this economy, we should not judge too quickly-it may come to this for all of us.... "
1} The Kalama police dept is directly across the street from The Good Day Market. Kudo's KPD-LOL
2) With this economy, we should not judge too quickly-it may come to this for all of us.... "
Bmoc wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:52 AM:
" of course so many are pro stoner b/c most stoners are really cool people. I should know - I am really cool and so are my acquaintences who use MJ. I've used MJ for fifteen years and so far I've never wanted to use meth or heroin, but i'll be waiting for this gateway drug to kick in b/c I can't wait to be a junkie.! Give me a break- a ten year old could rip most of you law enforcement minded people to shreds in a deceminalization argument. You know why? B/c you are wrong and don't know anything about MJ except that it's illegal and you think it should stay that way. I think you better start worrying about your kids getting into you legal meds. "
alocalyokel wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:56 AM:
" I have always found The Good Day Market to be friendly and helpful. They are good people. Everyone in town did business there until a big corporation was allowed to build a big attractive Mini Mart across the street from The Good Day Market. Sergies locally owned Good Day Market was now empty and struggling to stay afloat. More Mom and Pop's will go out of business if we continue to shop the big corps. "
alocalyokel wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:02 AM:
" Two cars approach a stop sign...One has a driver who has had a few legal drinks of alcohol, the other is a driver who has smoked some pot.
How do you tell which is which?
The alcohol drinker is the one who doesn't stop and blows right through the stop sign, potentially harming others. The stoned driver is the one still sitting still, waiting for the sign to turn green, a danger to no one. "
How do you tell which is which?
The alcohol drinker is the one who doesn't stop and blows right through the stop sign, potentially harming others. The stoned driver is the one still sitting still, waiting for the sign to turn green, a danger to no one. "
Tortoise wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:43 AM:
" alocalyokel: simply not true. Kind of funny, but not true. "
CONCERENED wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:43 AM:
" WOW!!! THIS STORY GOT EVERYONE A LIL RILED UP EH? ITS ONLY POT PEOPLE!!!GO AHEAD AND LEAGALIZE IT , AND YA WOULDNT BEING READING ALL THESE HERE SILLY STORIES ABOUT THIS IN TODAYS PAPER!!!AND ALL THE STUPID, YES I SAID STUPID REMARKS. THE MAN IS HUMAN, HE'S GONNA MAKE HIS MONEY HOWEVER HE CAN, YOU WOULD TO AND YOU KNOW IT , AS LONG AS YA DIDNT GET CAUGHT! I THINK THATS WHAT THIS STORY HERE IS ALL ABOUT, THE MAN GOT CAUGHT! BIG DEAL! SMOKE OUT! AND KEEP ON LIVING. QUIT WHINING AND LET HIM HAVE HIS LIFE STYLE, ITS ONLY A LIL GREEN STUFF!! "
CONCERENED wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:45 AM:
" PERSONALLY, I THINK ALL THE COMPLAINER'S HERE SIMPLY PUT, ARE JUST JEALEOUS THEY DIDNT THINK OF IT FIRST! SO LAY OFF THE MAN AND GO WATCH A FOOTBALL GAME OR SOMETHING!!! LOL "
go nooks!! wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:46 AM:
" Nice guy or not, he and his son are going away for a LONG TIME!! Maybe some of you that support him can pass a hat around to help fund his defense. That is, if you can put your bongs down long enough to think straight. "
averageguy wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:53 AM:
" Potheads! I've heard it before: "I'm not addicted, I can stop whenever I want, and right now the only thing I want is more." So many people are trying to change the subject: calling people judgemental, pointing to worse crimes or worse drugs or worse people. Just because some other jerk drinks and drives doesn't give you the right to break the law. Period. The point is not were these guys "nice" drug dealers. The point is not were they guys "nice" store owners. And my guess is that if they were simply "nice" users the police would have left them alone. They were dealing an illegal drug. That is breaking the law. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time! And stop trying to rationalize the legitimacy of your behavior by comparing it to the illegitimacy of others. "
dudester50 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:03 AM:
" Serg and Kuldeep were awesome guys they were dealing weed which should be legal. I have smoked it off and on and have not resorted to hard drugs. I am so sick of these hysterical rantings of people that quote these studies that don`t have any hard science to back them up.Good luck guys. "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:03 AM:
" I have and always will support them, and I am NOT a "user" of any substance.. Legal or not. "
viper wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:05 AM:
" First of all I don't think that they forced anyone into buying it from them
it was the people that bought it that wanted it . it is a supply and demand business . they are nice people they just helped people get what they wanted it's not like it was meth this was grown in the ground and is purly natural wait till the day when you have to decide weather to use oxycontin that you can die from to something that is safe to use with NO history of death attached to it . I would rather see people use pot for pain and other med problems then oxycontin and methadone and the others that have a LONG death history to it .lets see something that kills you or something that has never been linked to killing anyone in history of the earth .the only problem is the goverment is unable to tax it and control it like aclochol that is why they are against it . if they could figure out a way to tax everyone on it I bet it would be legal . the goverments own studies that they had spent millions of dollars on shows it's safe to use better then all the drugs on the market that you use each day they are more dangerous then pot ever could be do some research people :Viper "
it was the people that bought it that wanted it . it is a supply and demand business . they are nice people they just helped people get what they wanted it's not like it was meth this was grown in the ground and is purly natural wait till the day when you have to decide weather to use oxycontin that you can die from to something that is safe to use with NO history of death attached to it . I would rather see people use pot for pain and other med problems then oxycontin and methadone and the others that have a LONG death history to it .lets see something that kills you or something that has never been linked to killing anyone in history of the earth .the only problem is the goverment is unable to tax it and control it like aclochol that is why they are against it . if they could figure out a way to tax everyone on it I bet it would be legal . the goverments own studies that they had spent millions of dollars on shows it's safe to use better then all the drugs on the market that you use each day they are more dangerous then pot ever could be do some research people :Viper "
Kalam-Bodian wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:21 AM:
" I just hope everyone continues shopping at the Good Day Market. They are very nice people and besides, the Mrs. needs to keep making a living. I don't recall anyone mentioning how much weed they had. We should legalize it and then the people that are on their high horses about it can just get off of them. If you don't want to smoke, don't, and leave others alone.
(Off the subject) To the freaks that are raising heck over the proposed casino or Walmart to Woodland. If you don't want a them, YOU bring in another industry. Let's see you put your money where your mouth is! We need the jobs!!! "
(Off the subject) To the freaks that are raising heck over the proposed casino or Walmart to Woodland. If you don't want a them, YOU bring in another industry. Let's see you put your money where your mouth is! We need the jobs!!! "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:25 AM:
" Yes, let's legalize it! So instead of having 12 year olds sneaking cigarettes out behind the am/pm or in the dugout at school, they'll be out there smoking a bowl! Great idea! Any amount of legal accessibility to the drug will put it in the hands of younger and younger kids. And you know I'm right! Most kids who smoke cigarettes have an older teen buy them or they bum them off someone who can legally purchase them. Again, great idea! "
kalamaty wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:27 AM:
" Averageguy: No one is suggesting that they don't "do the time". Stop making blanket statements. People everywhere smoke MJ and will continue to do so.... I'm certain someone you know does it. Judge much, Judy? "
viper wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:28 AM:
" at some time in your life you are going to have to make a choice between the dangerous drugs that are legal because they can be controlled and taxed and the government gets there fair share of the profits , and the choice to use pot as an alter net treatment hope you never have cancer and have to suffer threw chemotherapy if you watch tv you will see all the drugs that are legal that have dangerous side of affects even Death yet these are approved for you to use . yet you take these drugs. doctors sell pills drug companys make pills for profit . the Goverment gets lots of money from the sale of pills. now what do you think they want you to beleave do you think they want you to quit taking pills ? and they lose money ? I'm not saying that pot is for everyone but there are alot of people that gets alot of relief from it . and most important
NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM USING POT PERIOD! it is meth and alcohl that kills and ruins peoples lifes . poverty is the gateway drug .I use pot and I don't want meth or alcohl or any other drug . I have servere nerve Damage and it is the only thing that gives me relief and I don't have to worry about over doseing on it or dieing : Viper "
NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM USING POT PERIOD! it is meth and alcohl that kills and ruins peoples lifes . poverty is the gateway drug .I use pot and I don't want meth or alcohl or any other drug . I have servere nerve Damage and it is the only thing that gives me relief and I don't have to worry about over doseing on it or dieing : Viper "
Bounder wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:29 AM:
" Averageguy you need to to get your facts straight. Pot is not addicting. I smoked pot in the past. I decided to quit when I wanted a better job. I did not have withdrawals. I have been off pot for over ten years. I did enjoy the relaxing qualities without the hangover. You need to stop watching the propaganda films from the 50's. You are judgemental if you talk about something you know NOTHING about(saying pot is addicting proves that)Do some more research, pot is not physically addicting. You are right about one thing though, just because someone drinks and drives does not give someone else the right to break a different law. "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:31 AM:
" Yes, let's legalize it! So in five years you can all say, let's legalize heroin! Because, you know, marijuana is legal and alcohol is legal, and they're drugs that ruin alot of peoples lives, but they're legal, and people run stop signs using them, and people just gotta make a living, and those people are nice people, and so why isn't heroin legal? "
Mr. Bastinado wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:36 AM:
" Hmm...I haven't smoked any weed since the '70's. That must be a let-down for all the neo-prohibitionists that say "It's a gateway drug" or that it leads to a dismal life. HAHAHAHA. Alcohol and tobacco have gotta be about 1,000 times more harmful. Come to think of it, with the price of beer and good bourbon these days, I might be willing to take a trip over to 'ol Sergi's and try some of his wares. Might bring back some good 'ol memories. "
Mr. Bastinado wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:39 AM:
" Oh, and by the way, I haven't been over to Sergi's lately, but now will try to patronize his establishment a little more just because having to resort to illegal means, he obviously needs the business. "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:45 AM:
" Sparky: Are you really as naive as you sound? Do you truly think that in this day in age 12 years olds are not already "trying" or "using" pot...? News flash- THEY ARE! Legalizing it may or may not make that worse, but bottom line is "curiosity killed the cat.." Its the people that say NO that make the difference. Addiction is an illness, and its the lack of knowledge that makes it what it is. Inform your children of the risks, and be a roll model. My parents are both pot heads, and have been since I was little. They are fully-functional members of society, and taught me that it may or not be "right", but once I was an adult that was my choice to make. Again- I am not, or never have been a "user" of anything. Young or not.. Legal or not. "
Rosey Glasses wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:47 AM:
" hey sparkey, when I was a teenager in the 70s (sorry showing my age here), we took bongs to school, smoked on the outskirts of the school property, got good grades, fell asleep in chior, and lets not forget, didn't get into gang fights or drink on school property. Good greif. I have not used meth, heroin or exstacy... I have tried acid in my youth, and if it were legal I would smoke today. But the job I do, I choose not to smoke pot... it is a choice I made... it shouldn't be forced upon us. Alcohol is by far worse and more damaging to society and familys as is meth, heroin, and may other legal drugs. Give me a break folks... "
nickandholly wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:49 AM:
" figgerditout I agree with you. Almost all the stores that are owned by the foreigners sell paraphanelia. I know we are the ones that buy it but if it wasn't there and wasn't so easy to get we probably wouldn't. Of course they call it "GLASS ART" so they can sell it. It is ridiculous. I think they just need to legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. I don't smoke it, but I know people who do. The just need to make it legal. Afterall it is naturally grown!!! "
cuz wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:57 AM:
" I like how everyone posting on here is so perfect and law abiding. Also, you have a shop right in the middle of Longview that sells glass pipes called Smokin J's, does that mean they sell drugs there also??? Maybe the great police force should shut them down, go into most of the mini marts around here, they are selling crack pipes right at the registers. A drug is a drug, nicatine, alcohol, caffiene, pot, meth, cocaine, if one is illegal,they all are. "
Mark A wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:05 AM:
" Some say the arrested are "nice guys". As a CR resident, I visited the store and they were "nice" to me. They openly sell drug pipes in their store, within 500 yards of our Grade School & Middle School. I do not want these "nice" guys talking to my kids. What I want is a "Drug-Free-Zone" designated around our schools, ASAP. I was in town for a few minutes the day of the arrests. In a very short period I watch a dozen school aged teens visit the door of the closed store. What is happening to our little community? City Counsel: Please, take notice and take charge! "
WOF wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:18 AM:
" I have never read such craziness in my life! I had friends in high school that smoked it and yes they were friendly and fun. One of my friends smoked some at a party and left with 3 other friends that were also stoned and ended up hitting a tree just down the road and the 3 died and driver is in for a long time. Yes, he feels awful. But it was all because of MJ. It CAN be bad! I think that's why it not legal. It's not like a cigarette. Just take a min. and think of the things that can happen, not the things that don't. "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:21 AM:
" Past Chinook, I wish I was naive, ignorant would be bliss. You missed my point, legalizing it would increase access to the drug for kids. I know they are already using it, but it is not sold next to candy bars and Mt. Dew. Are you really saying that legalizing it and giving the goverment's "stamp of approval" is good for our kids? If adults want to smoke it, go ahead and toke away, but let's not sell it in minit marts where kids can get their older sibling to go in and get it for them (hence the behind the am/pm part of my comment). "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:28 AM:
" Lets make all crime legal..then all the worlds problems would disappear!!!! "
somedude wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:32 AM:
" I am not a smoker, But I agree to legalize it. Kids will use it regardless if it's legal and more if it's illegal! Marijuana is in the Music, Tv, and the main stream lifestyle of all the people our Kids Worship! I am with El on this one...think of the tax dollars that could be made instead of wasting money on a Battle that everyone knows we will never win or even come close to putting a dent in. I hear one of the only reasons it was made illegal in the fisrt place is cause way back in the day it was bringing the production of one of our Auto Makers down...oh no...good god, were losing profit so let's make it illegal! "
Past Chinook wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:36 AM:
" sparky: Hense my comment that it may or may NOT make it worse. Just because its not "sold in an AM/PM" doesnt mean its not just as easy to get.. Some probably dont even have to ask "older siblings" to get it for them... Look at Medical use.. There are specially designated clinics that sell it. If it were to become legal it doesnt mean it would be sold like an every day grocery item... "
Amazed By Ignorance wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:37 AM:
" Wow. All this fighting and negativity. It's killing my buzz, man. Until I hear of a stoner getting off his so called "lazy doped up butt" to commit an armed robbery for doritos and a slurpee? I'll change my mind, and consider a natural herb to be evil and dangerous. "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:48 AM:
" I'm glad to not see any Castle Rock people defending these guys. Pull your heads out of the sand Kalama, these guys are not good for your town! "
mole wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:27 AM:
" SOUNDS LIKE A PRISON STYLE FENCE LIKE THE ONE AT THE MEXICAN BORDER,NEEDS TO BE BUILT AROUND THE ENTIRE COWLITZ COUNTY AREA!!!! JUST TO KEEP AN EYE ON EVERYONE!!!!! THIS GETS MORE COMMENTS THAN MURDER,PRIORITIES,PRIORITIES,PRIORITIES NOW I SOUND LIKE MR GORTON MY BIOLOGY TEACHER,SAY IT THREE TIMES MAKES IT MORE IMPORTANT!!!! "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:57 AM:
" Ever wonder why any of the people who think pot should be legal have never taken the steps to start an initiative to make it legal? It's a simple process. Doesn't cost anything except time, and let's be serious, most stoners don't know what time of day it is to worry about time. Most likely they never try because they are too stoned to understand how the process works even though it is simple. I look forward to the day when I get to vote against it. "
uh huh wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:58 AM:
" The government always calls Marijuana a gateway drug as do the people believing them. The government made Marijuana a gateway drug when they classified it as a drug in the first place. The effects are close to taking a 5mg Valium people. Kids are taught to think its the devil, it is bad I'm not condoning Marijuana for kids at all, but think about it, its hyped up so much that when someone tries it it sheds a light on them telling them its not a hardkore substance. Then they try meth, thats where we are at. Yeah its not good to smoke anything but it is a proven fact that our factories put more pollution in the air than Cigarette or especially Marijuana smoke. In other words our town will kill us before marijuana. I think that we should legalize marijuana to a certain amount to take the taboo off, and it would still be illegal to grow it but it would take legal battles that don't need to exist outta the equation. Have it as a alternative for a partyer, a unpredictable drunkard or a content pothead. Our city needs to pull their heads outta their rears and do something about all this. To the people that got caught...should've wore a rubber :) Uh Huh "
tushyturtle wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:19 PM:
" to sparky.... Guys are not good for our town? I suppose you are. You are probably one who walks down the streets of kalama and judge all who walk by you. Kalama still is and always will be filled with those who think they are better than most. Many more snobs nowadays. I will take a friendly hello and a handshake from the little store peeps way before I would from some of our Upstanding citizens. Only because their hands are not extended to those whom are not in their "SOCIAL CLASS"
Upstanding? ..."It is better to be invited to herbs with love, than to a fatted calf with hatred!! Proverbs 15 .... And yes I know there are so many other proverbs to debate this with, but Herbs and love go hand in hand LOL "
Upstanding? ..."It is better to be invited to herbs with love, than to a fatted calf with hatred!! Proverbs 15 .... And yes I know there are so many other proverbs to debate this with, but Herbs and love go hand in hand LOL "
El Fuego wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:41 PM:
" Can someone tell me where the one way market is in Castle Rock? The only markets that come to mind are the one at four corners and C&C. I checked the phone book, but couldn't find a listing. "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:54 PM:
" Attention all drug dealers who want to sell out of their establishments: Kalama, WA welcomes you with open arms because they would rather have drug dealers in town than "snobs" who walk down the street and judge people. Middle school mentality at best! And please, spare me quotes from the Bible when you are defending drug dealers! "
kalama teen mom wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:54 PM:
" Ooo my god we are all going to die now... who cares what they did... Oh wait YOU ALL DO.... you know you need to think about it... ALL People do illegal stuff all the time and you can not sit there and say NO CUZ YOU HAVE.. YOU PEOPLE ARE SCANDALIST!!! i can sit here and tell you that i have not ever smoked pot or any thing else and i will still shop there... wow they did some thing wrong.... SO WHAT.. YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE CUZ OF THIS... AND YOU ARE TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE NOT TO SHOP THERE... you will see how many people will still shop there... "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 1:09 PM:
" Wow, it just hit me. All of you defending the drug dealers in Kalama must have bought your weed from them! What are you going to do now? Oh, I forgot, your not addicted and you can stop anytime you want, so why are you all so worried? "
grams wrote on Oct 10, 2008 1:11 PM:
" Oh good grief "tushyturtle"--do you realize what you just said?.... Sparky walks down the street and judges all who walk by??? AND. the next statement from you is that Kalama is fulled with those who think they are better than most. Know what I think I think your head comes out of your tush! your own judgments seem to be rather stinky. "
Atrucker wrote on Oct 10, 2008 1:34 PM:
" Hey Mole for once I agree with you . LOL Fence idea is pretty good throw in a bag of dope and watch what happens. LOL. "
PuffY wrote on Oct 10, 2008 1:51 PM:
" bo-de-gas say it with me now people bodegas!as for the herbage who cares,wake up leo you only look stupid fighting a drug war only 30% of the population agrees with!you look more like hitlers neocons pushing your unwanted ways on the population!leo the biggest gang in america! "
celtic dude wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:01 PM:
" i cant belive its taken them this long. i live in kalama and some of my friends and i have been going there for a long and have had an idea its been going on. heck they used to sell pipes there. "
Mark A wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:01 PM:
" OK. You like your Pot and/or you see no true harm it for others. So, this TDN comment-ladder seems to have become the forum for several to argue Pots legal viabilities. For me, this is not the issue. I am not sure what was going on at the store in Kalama. I do know this: In CR a Snack store, within 500 yards of our Kindergarten through 8 grade Schools, called the One-Way, sold a broad range of Drug-Pipes (known as Glass-Art). Being a Snack Store, so close to the schools, it was frequented by young people. Snacks, sodas and comic-bookswho do you think their target-market was? The, not-so-bright (known to be nice guys) ownership, are accused of illegally selling MJ or more out of this CR store front. Who thinks it is wrong of me to want this type of human-trash removed from our community? I advocate a Drug-Free-Zone of 500 yards around our schools. So, when these Nice Guys, so popular in Kalama, come calling to our young people again (and they will), the penalties will be doubly tough. "
dudester50 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:06 PM:
" Man I am not sure what you have been imbibing bad boy lol. but there have been plenty of initiatives that come closer each year to passing, it is only a matter of time before it is legal. "
TDN Bad Boy wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:40 PM:
" Thank you Mark for putting this whole argument about this crime into perspective. Don't worry the people who advocate the legality of this stuff are not in the majority. They want to think they are because of their numbers in here but when it comes time to vote they can never muster up the votes. I wonder why? Oh maybe becasue most of the people who don't agree with you don't want to debate it with you. I hope you do exactly what you say Mark. Get it so the punishment is more severe in neighborhoods with schools. It's time to start putting away these people. "
chinook66 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:45 PM:
" to: alocalyokel......get your info right, your big corp. accross the street is a mom and pop operation, have been from Kalama since birth, Grandfather was the first Port Manager, how much more mom and pop can you get except they run it like a professional business. We are proud to have the Kalama Cheveron here, you should too. Oh by the way they are US citizens too. "
mstercor wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:45 PM:
" lets get real here people, alcohol is way more destructive then pot. lets just legalize it and get it over with. "
tushyturtle wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:45 PM:
" oh geez i knew i was opening up a can of worms lol. You people don't even see the humor in the obvious..... Lets just let the freedoms of our country which may I add states..... innocent until proven guilty. With most of these comments you all already have them tried convicted and shipped off to Syberia. To the ones who refuse to shop there.... you probably didn't in the first place. That may be the reason the extra income was needed. (smirk) Defending drug dealers sparky? I believe what I was trying to convey is no to judge other fellow HUMAN BEINGS as mentioned in that book we call the Bible. By the way, Sparky, Would there even be a bible if not for ALL of us sinners? Sink your claws into that notion! "
tushyturtle wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:55 PM:
" As for grams we are debating, fighting, arguing this story and the underlying problems that come with it. You on the other hand have to resort to the sailors antics of just stick it up my "rear" because i say so!! Shame we couldnt stick to the subject of....they are human beings and nice ones at that. At least with Sparky it is much more enjoyable to banter. With you to easy! "
Simple Man wrote on Oct 10, 2008 2:57 PM:
" Great ideas lets legalize it since people will always do it anyways. Since people will always be using pain killers, meth, pcp, blow, heroin, shrooms, acid, and anything else that will impair the mind lets legalize those and tax those too we would make a killing. While we are at it lets get rid of background checks for guns too since you can buy those from the same crowd that already sales drugs. While we are at lets lower drinking and smoking age to 16 since that is the age most people start using. Think about all the money our govt would make from taxes. Cant you come up with a better reason to legalize it? "
tushyturtle wrote on Oct 10, 2008 3:00 PM:
" Last entry to : All the Haters......
Can't we all just get along??? "
Can't we all just get along??? "
louie wrote on Oct 10, 2008 3:07 PM:
" Smoking pot does not lead to use of other drugs...it is not a gateway drug. If a person is going to ABUSE drugs pot is not what leads them to do so. The USE of marijuana is, in my opinion, not harmful but the ABUSE of meth, heroin, cocaine, etc., etc., is definitely a problem. That goes for a lot of things, not just drugs. One of these days it will be legalized and then we will realize all the money we have wasted on marijuana busts. It could be a great source of revenue for the state. "
kman wrote on Oct 10, 2008 3:25 PM:
" chinook 66: Why shouldn't they be open today? I'm in no way a supporter of pot use, but I do support Sergie. I will continue to shop their. Sergie and Cooldeep are innocent until proven guilty, and they probably will be found innocent as they found NO POT at their business or at their house. How does a drug dealer sell drugs if they don't have any? "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 3:39 PM:
" Not sure how exactly I "judged" anyone tushyturtle. I just read the facts of the story. After a lenghthy investigation by the drug task force, a store owner is arrested for distribution of a drug and I decide to no longer give them my business, all the sudden I am being "judgemental"? I say that these guys aren't good for Castle Rock and Kalama and I'm a "snob". How about this, if it turns out that this is all just a big conspiracy by the drug task force to bring down these two business in the "big" towns of Castle Rock and Kalama, I will be the first one to go in and buy a piece of their "functional glass art" just to clear up any bad feelings. "
chinook66 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 3:40 PM:
" They are still in jail with large bail for both...that must tell you something KMAN.... have you ever heard of seizure of all properties, cars etc. till proven innocent. They need to figure out who really owns that store, this could get very interesting before it is over. "
TheGenius wrote on Oct 10, 2008 4:17 PM:
" All this anger for a couple of dudes selling weed? Cowlitz County has to be the most boring place outside of Provo, Utah. Good thing they weren't selling smack. TDN.com would have to shut down with all the potential comments from that one. "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 10, 2008 4:38 PM:
" Yea imagine that..people are angry that people were selling a "little weed" outta their business. I guess to be unboring, Cowlitz County needs to be more hip and accept drug dealers with open arms!!! "
sparky wrote on Oct 10, 2008 4:48 PM:
" kman, What? They are innocent? Oh, those silly willy drug task for guys are such pranksters! They had me going there for a minute! Thanks for clearing things up! "
GOLDENRED wrote on Oct 10, 2008 5:45 PM:
" SOUNDS LIKE GOOD PEOPLE THAT TOOK A WRONG TURN. I HOPE THAT EVERYTHING WORKS OUT AND DIFFERENT CHOICES WILL BE MADE. "
tushyturtle wrote on Oct 10, 2008 6:04 PM:
" Does another Kalama drug bust, ring any bells for anyone ... the one with a prominent kalama name. The drug of choice was far more damaging. Oxycotton i believe a powerfully addictive drug with withdrawals, i am told are unbearable. When this story went to print the comments were totally different. Here are just a few, We are praying and hope the best for you (as do I) Oh i can't believe it, Our prayers are with you and the family, geez such potential, hang in there we have faith. It evoked such sympathy. Yet, another drug dealer taken off the streets, You would think the linch mob would have been there to greet them.... We are here for you and your family, you are in our prayers. Wow such a shame..... Such a shame that we do not treat people with the same respect as we do those with money or power. My comments have not advocated the use of drugs, neither for or against. I just think they we all can extend our hands to our fellow HUMAN-Beings. My hand does not distinguish who I welcome by the letters in their last name. Nor does it discriminate by how deep their well is dug!! This will probably be censored because of the name involved, thius is the third time I have had to write this. Just remember "Stones and glasses houses can be self reflecting!!" "
grams wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:16 PM:
" tushyturtle. the point you didn't get was that I read and read and read before I commented. I agree with Sparky!
You on the other hand have a superior attitude and are patronizing. Sorry you couldn't figure that out by my "satirecle remark" in regard to the deterioration of your argument. I just couldn't resist the "tushy" part. "
You on the other hand have a superior attitude and are patronizing. Sorry you couldn't figure that out by my "satirecle remark" in regard to the deterioration of your argument. I just couldn't resist the "tushy" part. "
chinook66 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:22 PM:
" Sounds like Kalama has a lot of POT HEADS....used to be DRUNKS now its POT... "
kalamachic wrote on Oct 10, 2008 7:52 PM:
" he is a great friend to everyone in kalama he is very friendly and i hope you @$$holes stop being rude to a great friend and fellow cetizen "
CONCERENED wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:06 PM:
" RE CHINOOK66: THE COPS WATCH THE BARS TO CLOSELY NOW!! THATS WHY ALL THE POT-HEADS ARE HANGING OUT THERE. THERES NO BUILDING FOR THEM TO GO INTO AND SMOKE IT, LIKE A TAVERN TO DRINK IN . LOL "
Mark A wrote on Oct 10, 2008 8:11 PM:
" Tushy, - In an effort to get my Castle Rock POV across to all, I want to comment on your note above. First, I dont know anything about your Kalama drugging stories, current or historical. I do know a little about what was going-on in CR these last few weeks. Some guys came into town and set up a Snack-Food store. Surprisingly, they were the only business that had the need to put Bars on all the windows. I guess it was to protect the Ho-Hos and Ding-dongs. This new store begged the question, what do candy-bars, energy-sodas and drug-pipes have in common? The answer, the target-market of a large number of CR school aged patrons a few blocks away. It sounds like you believe that these business predators of our kids are to be coddle. Well, visit them in jail and coddle them as much as you like. "
akasha merkabah wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:02 PM:
" Past Chinook...I like the way you think and how you word it.The "family name" shouldn't have saved anyone considering how they come by the business. And HOW did he get a court appointed lawyer when he was arrested AT WORK? SimpleMan.....Your bottom line about MJ being a gateway drug shows your stupidity about the topic. Your bad english, bad spelling, and no sense comments only validate it. If MJ was not found at the business how can he be selling something from there that he does not even have?? I think the band wagon that people should be on has to do with the fact that "IF" everyone knew about it why didn't the Kalama Police across the street act on it? Let me guesss....they are too busy being at the Rebel Truckstop or giving out citations "out of the city limits" at the bottom of Todd Rd. Where were they when they were needed? I DIDN'T SEE THEM AFFILIATED WITH THIS BUST. I am fifth generation Kalamaite and I will support Good Day Market.I hope the owners don't move because if they do it will be Kalamas loss because they are GOOD people. Too bad some of Kalamas more snobby,gossipy,no palm tree only pear tree people don't have their laundry put on front street.It would stink worse than a MJ bust I'm sure. Kalama was noted in High Times in 1970. How many murders and rapes since then?Is MJ all that BAD? Legalize it! "
viper wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:33 PM:
" whats the matter people are you afraid that you didn't raise your kids right that they could make this choice on there own if it is illegal that is what attracts kids because you are told not too !if you rasie your kids right and gave them good values and the right understanding and not lie too them then maybe they will stay away from it but kids will try anything thats illegal as that is where the thrill is will i get caught or will i get away with it . heck when I was a kids I did everything that my parents said not too I wanted to find out why for myself . I got kids and they don't want it because I didn't lie to them and make it look like the devil I sat and talked to them little by little
no big lecture just a good heart to heart talk and be truthful about it they can read they have the internet they talk to kids at school about it they are curious the more taboo you make it too them the more they want to try it try alittle common sense I realize that is a little to much of a task for some of you but give it a shot kids are alot smarter then you think : Viper "
no big lecture just a good heart to heart talk and be truthful about it they can read they have the internet they talk to kids at school about it they are curious the more taboo you make it too them the more they want to try it try alittle common sense I realize that is a little to much of a task for some of you but give it a shot kids are alot smarter then you think : Viper "
1980mustang wrote on Oct 10, 2008 9:42 PM:
" We will keep shopping there... Don't forget Kalama they have been there when there was no where eles to get quick food and a nice HELLO.. "
Tia72 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 10:10 PM:
" Uhhh....guys? OK, not to disparage the Daily News's ability to report a story...but I live in Kalama. And I saw them go into Sergie's store...they weren't going in there with squirt guns. They were armed to the teeth, almost as those they were expecting a fight. Now, I will be the first to tell you Kalama is a screwed up town. But the cops don't go after the small fish, like pot dealers. I think the cops aren't telling the whole tale here. They wouldn't waste their time with a small town guy if he wasn't pulling down something big. I wonder what he was really doing.
And for the record, Sergie and his wife are some of the nicest people I have ever met. This is unfortunate, but the law is the law. If he say this law doesn't matter, how can we say any other law matters?? "
And for the record, Sergie and his wife are some of the nicest people I have ever met. This is unfortunate, but the law is the law. If he say this law doesn't matter, how can we say any other law matters?? "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:25 PM:
" I know this family and have for 17 years or more. Never have I been treated like anything other than a friend in their presence. They are some of the better people in this town. IDCare what they are accused of. My kids and I will continue to shop at their businesses and sometimes even stop by to say hi!!! I am behind them 100 percent because whether this is fact or fiction it doesnt change the fact that they are better people than most of this town. Why? Because they are genuine and really care about the people that come into their stores and they are always going to be those people to me. Those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. I bet that Everyone who has commented on here has broke the law in one way or another. How can you judge, this family would be the last one to judge you. No they shouldnt be untouchable because they are nice people but they also shouldnt be judged by you. This just ticks me off, I am proud that I know these guys and I plan on supporting them and I will continue to shop at there stores and I will continue to allow my kids to drop by and say hi and shop there with or without me, this is sad. My prayers are with them and I hope that they get thru this okay. I am happy to call them friends!!! "
Mark A wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:45 PM:
" Viper, - I think I get your point. Correct me if I am wrong. You are a very good parent. You are so good, so complete in your teaching, that you need not concern yourself with drug dealers in your community. And, what a wonderful lesson in parenting your comment above provides. Currently, I am not a Parent. I am looking forward to being one very soon. So, I wonder, what do you think causes me to be “afraid”? Evidently, it is not your assertion that I did not raise my kids as wonderfully as you obviously have. Maybe, I am “afraid” for the well-being of the kids in my little town of CR. A few weeks ago these guys came to town and set-up a Snack-Food store, seemingly, for kids. The Snack store came complete with drug-pipes and suspected felons – and only a few short blocks from our schools - and right under the noses of our CR City Counsel. But, an excellent parent like you need not concern yourself with community matters like these. Again, correct me if I am wrong. I understand that your work, for the most part, is done. "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 10, 2008 11:54 PM:
" I just read all of these comments on here again and all of you that are passing judgement on these guys need to realize that your not a higher power than they are, judgement isnt for you to play a part in. I feel that because I am choosing to stand behind them you are all passing judgement on me. I think in so many ways you people are bigger criminals than what they are. That is if stupidity was a crime, I am not a druggie or for that matter ever been offerd drugs by them. To stop shopping there because of this is a personal choice but dont pass your ignorance on to the others...please. Drugs are all around us 24 hours a day. This is 2008, you can get this crap anywhere. This isnt going to make a difference to this town or any other. There is always someone that will take over so to speak. If this is a fact than who now takes over, maybe someone who will kill someone for looking strange. Heres the reality of it if it is true, knowing that this is the way things are now. Who would you rather have in our town, maybe a murdering freak or people who would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it. This isnt going to change a thing, except make us more vulnarable to the vulture waiting for an opening. It can always be worse! "
Mark A wrote on Oct 11, 2008 1:10 AM:
" Kalamamom77, - Really? Regarding your comments above, are you sure that this is your position? So, you advocate your nice little I-5 town's surrender to drug-trafficking by way of local business. Of course, the drug-dealers will have to be nice and worthy of your friendship to qualify. Here in Castle Rock, we will still “fight-the-good-fight”. As I have stated earlier, rather than a “Kalamamom-Surrender”, I advocate “Drug-Free-Zones” that double the penalties and double the pain; for any dealers – large or small – who thing that the “Kalamamom-Surrender” extends to CR. By-the-by, do read Tia72’s comment. It sounds like he was a Kalama eye-witness to the bust. It is assumed that the Task-Force doesn’t bring out their heavy-lifting-team just for a couple of bags of pot. Your wonderful friends may be into some weighty doo-doo. "
boon-dogdotcom wrote on Oct 11, 2008 5:25 AM:
" oh no selling weed.. gee thats like a death sentence right.. hey I know lets all go out and get wasted so bad on booze that we all go out driving and kill some people.. Oh wait I heard the stoners on the couch were planning a home invasion to get more weed money.. oh wait thats meth heads..hey i know lets arrest people for crimes not for having or selling pot "
akasha Merkabah wrote on Oct 11, 2008 6:35 AM:
" WOW! Don't put bars on the windows of your CR business as thats just unheard of......some of you people need something to go on in YOUR lives so you don't have to spend your one brain cell on the right to put bars on ones business. I was in that shop to see what it was all about.Signs EVERYWHERE about ID checking, and in the short time I was there I saw 3 People ID'd. NO ONE was sold "glass" without ID. What are you people so paranoid about..........you can't get high on the glass.Like the little old woman in the commercial who asked "Where's the BEEF!" I think someone should ask "Where's the MJ????" Sure seems to me IF this thing was so.o.o big where in the paper did it say the poundage of what was confiscated? It didn't as there wasn't anything found. Couldn't all that tax money spent on all that long investigating be put to better use (like fighting METH!) And I can't begin to tell you how"Chump and Snobby" the comment about the store being open today really is.That store will be open as it always has "Caring and Down Home" Where people like me go to get away from people that make rude comments like that......you are probably one of those for spending all that money on beautifying downtown(without palm trees...only pear trees) while our foodbanks are almost empty and our school could use new books. We love Good Day Market!!!! "
sparky wrote on Oct 11, 2008 6:51 AM:
" Un-be-lieve-able! Let's let those nice people stay in town and sell their drugs because if we don't a murdering freak will take his place. I give up! "
TheGenius wrote on Oct 11, 2008 9:57 AM:
" This is hilarious. It's weed folks. Meth, heroin, cocaine, those would be worthy of 100-plus posts and anger. On the scale of problems facing the area, two guys alledgedly selling ganja is pretty low on the totem pole. And anyone that reads this and wants to throw out the "gateway drug" argument, save yourself the trouble. Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything and I imagine that's all you'll have, seeing as how there's no scientific corrollary between smoking weed and jumping up to smack. This is so comical, you could write a sitcom about this area. Anyone suggest a title, I'm open to suggestions. "
viper wrote on Oct 11, 2008 10:03 AM:
" Mark let me tell you this I know that I did my job to inform my kids about drugs when we drive down the street and they see tweaker and say what a loss, then you know you did your job don't be afraid to take them for a ride by the highlands and let then see the other side of it alittle bitty trip can make a big impression on kids, as parent you have to do a lot of research on the internet lucky for you you have it for your use. there is alot of information out there to help but what I found to be most useful was telling them the truth and showing them with examples . I don't like drug dealers in the area but it not going to go away soon enough
I also don't like porn shops in town . but remember everything that they are curious about they can find on the internet and buy it it's all there
it's not easy to raise a kids these days but if I had to do it over I wouldn't change a thing I did as it worked for me
my kids are very respectful and great kids with high grades in school and hopefully they will be successful in the future they all have there own computers and research everything they need to know "
I also don't like porn shops in town . but remember everything that they are curious about they can find on the internet and buy it it's all there
it's not easy to raise a kids these days but if I had to do it over I wouldn't change a thing I did as it worked for me
my kids are very respectful and great kids with high grades in school and hopefully they will be successful in the future they all have there own computers and research everything they need to know "
Simple Man wrote on Oct 11, 2008 10:19 AM:
" TheGenius use common sense no ones first drug they ever used was meth or heroin. Im not saying all stoners are going to turn into tweakers but half will. Ive seen it Im young enough to see all the kids I went to school with turn to harder drugs I see them in the police blotter at least once a week. You dont need "Anecdotal evidence" look out your window. "
DW wrote on Oct 11, 2008 11:06 AM:
" I know, let's do like they do in some European countries, make cigarettes illegal to smoke indoors, but have pot smoking bars instead. Then we could be as enlitened as they are!! "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 11, 2008 11:14 AM:
" MarkA- I dont advocate anything what I am saying is that no body should judge especially considering this is America you are suppose to be innocent until PROVEN guilty. Just because it may have been stopped in one situation it opens the door for another. A drug is a drug but pot is what comparred to meth and heroin. This is small potatoes compaired to the drug dealers 10 minutes up the road killing each other in the streets. I do not advocate drug dealings and the using of drugs but I do advocate the constitution and most all of you have decided already that they are guilty lets get down to it is it because of Kalamas involvement or because of their nationality, yep I said it. I think that this has alot to do with who they are dealing with not what!!! Almost all of you I bet knows and possibly loves at least 1 person that smokes pot, some of you prob. even know someone who smokes pot because they have chronic pain. I dont advocate it but really to call it drug trafficing and such is a great overstatement, I would rather have someone like him in my community doing this than a hard core nut job cuz it wont stop with their arrests, and it surely isnt going to stop the demand of the product. This was not the problem with this lil town, it will continue to go on "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 11, 2008 12:24 PM:
" Ok this whole thing is just crazy, I am going to say this I really dont care what they were doing, they didnt push it on me or my family if they were selling. Just because my family is choosing to stand behind them doesn't mean we are using, it just means that we are not going to judge them based on what they may have done, but who they are. They didnt kill anyone, they are accused of selling POT oh no not POT! It isnt a dirty word people, it may kill a few brain cells and give you the munchies, but it is POT. Yes it is a drug, but it is about the mildest drug you can get these days and smoking it is a choice that people make, not myself but that is my choice. Legalize it and concentrate on the drugs that are manufactured with deadly chemicals. How many people commit crimes and murder because they smoked some weed? A few prob. with the crime being stealing some chips and jerky or something. I have never heard of I didnt know what I was doing when I shot him because I smoked some WEED? Ok it is a drug, but shouldnt we be more worried about stopping the drugs that give people the urge to kill, not to steal Dorito's. Picking our battles is not our strong point! Stop the manufacture's, but the reality is this is not going away! "
kitten wrote on Oct 11, 2008 12:27 PM:
" Hey Task Force?? Could you maybe fit at least one meth bust into your busy schedule? I know it is a lot scarier to deal with those people when you can bust pot dealers and have no fears, but leaving them out there really doesn't work for the rest of us. To all of you who say pot use leads to harder drugs, of course, druggies used pot along the way. They also drank alcohol, probably smoked ciggarettes, abused cough syrup etc.,etc. I never have had much use for marijauna, but I really think it is the lesser of many other evils in our society. I, for one, would like to see us stop spending so much time and effort on this particular "War on Drugs". First of all, it isn't working and second of all, we have bigger fish to fry. "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 11, 2008 1:43 PM:
" kitten, are you not aware of any recent meth busts??? I guess selective memory eh?? Anyway I find it simply stunning the free pass you people give drug dealers...its truly sad I have to share a county, a state, a nation with many of you... "
TheGenius wrote on Oct 11, 2008 2:44 PM:
" But that's my point. People choose to go on to harder drugs. The weed doesn't make them do that. People choose to do whatever drugs they want, the drugs don't choose them. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Besides, the point I'm trying to make is how absurd it is that there are so many posts on this story when there are more important things to be concerned with. Two guys getting nicked for selling weed is small potatoes. Wow, so they got two guys. Ten more will spring up from this. There will always be people selling because there will always be people buying. Arresting two low-end dealers doesn't even put a dent in the supply side. "
Reality Check wrote on Oct 11, 2008 2:52 PM:
" This is a "nation of laws." When we as a people ignore the laws, we are in trouble of destroying ourselves. The first step in that process is to believe that these are still "nice" people even though they disregard the law. Get your definition of "nice" straightened out. "
Brandy Erdman AKAGrayBrown wrote on Oct 11, 2008 3:08 PM:
" I am not going to use an "ID" because I dont care if you know me. I am keeping up on all of this by facts from people who actually know whats going on. Not thru the "Kalama Grapevine" all of you need to realize that these are accusations, I could accuse anyone of you of you of the same thing does that make it true? What they were hoping to find was not found. I am staying a loyal customer and friend to this family. I have spent time in this business talking to his boys and him with no one else around talking about my life and how things were really tuff and never was I offerd anything other than an ear to listen. This is Kalama and it will always be gossip central. This is a town where people need to clean up there own backyards first. If they want to "clean up the town" start at the school. Make an example out of the people who are actually causeing harm to others rather than the people and families that seem to be easy targets. This week I seem to be off the rumor radar, but I am sure this will give some of the Kalama people on here something else to talk about. Either show your support for them or quit shopping there, either way get the facts 1st, dont feed into the BS. "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 11, 2008 4:47 PM:
" gondolapete, ...if you are so sad to share a county, a state, a nation with so many of "us" than move. In this nation we have a constitution that says you are innocent until proven guilty, granted this day you are guilty until proven innocent, which I believe has for the most part has became this way because of people who choose to have the beliefs that you seem to have. Saying that selling drugs is ok is not what people are saying, and by the way these are only accusations being made. Real facts are not based on the media's word, I am sorry if you really truly feel so saddend by the people who think the real problem with all of this as far as drugs go is the meth and the herion etc... It's freakin POT!!! Yes it is illegal but the point is why are we trying to invest all this time and money into stopping something that causes no harm, dr's ok it's use, when we have so many people out in there using meth etc... and killing over it. Drinking and driving kills innocent people, meth kills innocent people, pot kills brain cells. As for all of you law abiding perfect citizans try investing your efforts in fact finding before you start condemming the accused. Having accusations made or getting arrested doesnt make you guilty!!! "
Brandy Erdman (AKA:Gray,Brown) wrote on Oct 11, 2008 5:17 PM:
" Reality Check: I dont think people are saying that the laws should be disregarded because they are nice, people are simply saying that they are nice people, they havent been found guilty but alot of you are saying they are. How in the heck do any of you know one way or another, we are already in trouble of destroying ourselves, not by saying hey those guys that were arrested for pot are nice and because they are so nice they shouldnt get in trouble, we are in trouble because people tend to believe what they hear rather than finding out facts. Our nations laws are partly in place to protect the innocent and to help convict the guilty. No matter what, they are innocent until a judge and jury see differently, not because they are nice people but because that is the law of our great nation. I dont see why your definition of nice has to compare to mine, would you prefer the word amiable. "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 11, 2008 5:21 PM:
" So then why were they arrested if there was no evidence to arrest them?? "
chinook66 wrote on Oct 11, 2008 6:47 PM:
" No one answered my question....why are they still in jail if they didn't find anything......also why are some of you trying to defend MJ....? it's illegal!!
and..don't try and tell me it doesn't lead to other drugs because you all are wrong! It has whecked alot of careers, families and educations for a lot of people, MJ and UA's don't blend well.....I'am applaud at how stupid some of these comments are. "
and..don't try and tell me it doesn't lead to other drugs because you all are wrong! It has whecked alot of careers, families and educations for a lot of people, MJ and UA's don't blend well.....I'am applaud at how stupid some of these comments are. "
bmoc wrote on Oct 11, 2008 10:24 PM:
" If convicted, the accused will be sentenced lightly and go about their lives. Meanwhile, some else will step in to provide Kalama heads with nice kind buds. Marijuana is used in thousands of Cowlitz County homes every day and I am one that people would least expect because I have high intelligence, a great family, a great job, and tons of energy and personality. The fact is, pot doesn't make you a loser. Being a lazy loser makes you a loser! I don't get the same high that novice users get. I don't get too paranoid or the giggles and munchies- though a toke or brownie help my appetite. Just like a person who doesn't use tobacco will not feel very good after smoking a cigarette- Regular smokers don't feel that way. I don' t get high like you would. I just feel better and it doesn't take much- and my doctor approves it. These guys were just supplying the market- somebody has got to do it. It's the biggest cash crop in the country. "
Gondolapete wrote on Oct 12, 2008 2:18 AM:
" kalamamom77, save your rhetoric..I heard, no, make that read, all I need to hear on this subject.planet of the apes is reality!!!! "
kalamatieszoo wrote on Oct 12, 2008 5:07 AM:
" Another weak attempt to blow things out of proportion ! Why isnt anything said about the amount of drugs if any? I really believe that its false. A smoke screen to make the police and drug task force look like there really doing a job. Do you think these people would open up shop for illegal drugs right across the street from kalama P.D.? Yeah right ! "
sparky wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:45 AM:
" Kalamatieszoo, you should be ashamed of yourself. A smoke screen set up by the drug task force? Really? The drug task force is going to set up a smoke screen to make it "look like they are really doing a job" as you put it, and they are going to do that in some rinky dink little stores in Castle Rock and Kalama? Are you seriously impling that our drug task force are a bunch of corrupt law enforcement officers who set up smoke screens? If you'd rather believe that then someone in your precious little town might be selling drugs out of their store, then keep on believing that, and I have a bridge you might be interested in buying. "
whatever wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:57 AM:
" Half of you people on this board posting how pot is illegal and they broke the law, yada, yada, yada; are the ones who scream the loudest about how we should let illegal immigrants stay here if they are already here. You pick and choose what is a crime and what isn't. In my opinion, if you break the law, deal with the consequences. I'm not saying that this man or his son are bad people or that they deserve harsh sentences, I'm just saying you made your bed, now lay in it. "
kitten wrote on Oct 12, 2008 1:41 PM:
" Gondolapete-If you are talking about the cartel bust in Woodland that was led by agents outside of Cowlitz County and our own task force made a statement that the bust would not have a huge impact on the availability of meth within our county. Woodland was being used as a way station to distribute to other parts of WA and the US. So, while I am glad it was shut down, I still think our task force needs to spend ALL of their time and effort dealing with the much bigger problem of meth in this county. I would much rather run into a pothead than a person who has been strung out on meth for a week. It is a matter of limited resources and where they are choosing to use them. I also think that the living dead zooming around on their bikes with their backpacks make for a horrible impression of this county. "
Simple Man wrote on Oct 12, 2008 4:49 PM:
" Former Chinook, the kalama police are worthless? Just wait until they save a member of your family then lets see how worthless they are. Your the same as every Monday night quarterback. I bet the CRPD is to. Oh wait a CR officer just saved an elderly member from a house fire so they are good for the day huh? "
Former Chinook wrote on Oct 12, 2008 9:51 PM:
" simple man-I have yet to have the police do anything for my family. They have called on different occasions and have done nothing. I don't know about CRPD never lived there. But in Kalama all they are out for is to get money and they will do anything to get it. What happened to the good ole boys who were there to help people out instead of stalking to get money? "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:10 PM:
" GONDOLAPETE:IGNORANCE IS BLISS JUST FORGET IT, A BATTLE OF WITS WITH THE UNARMED IS NO FUN FOR ME ANYMORE...OH FYI: YOU CAN ALSO BE ARRESTED FOR SUSPICTION OF A CRIME, THEY CAN ONLY HOLD YOU SO LONG WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PRESS ANY CHARGES AND ANYWAYS HONESTLY I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF HE HAD OR DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING ON HIM. HE IS A GOOD AND KIND MAN IF HE MADE THE CHOICE TO DO WHAT HE IS ACCUSED OF DO YOU REALLY THINK ALL OF YOU ON HERE BITCHING ABOUT IT IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE...NO JUST LIKE ME SAYING HE IS A NICE GUY IT DOESNT CHANGE A DAMN THING. IS THIS THE ONLY THING THAT WORRIES YOU PEOPLE...AGAIN I SAY IT IS FREAKIN POT. MAKE A STAND ON SOMETHING WORTH SITTING HERE ARGUING ABOUT LIKE THE GUY WHO KILLED HIS XGIRLFRIENDS MOM AND ISNT GOING TO GET THE DEATH PENALTY, PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE. WHATEVER I HAVE MY OPINION YOU ALL HAVE YOURS. "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:14 PM:
" I KNOW CR COPS THAT USED TO BE KALAMA COPS, WHATS THE DIFF. BETWEEN CR AND KALAMA? "
kalamamom77 wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:19 PM:
" SOUNDS LIKE ALOT OF YOU SCREAMING ABOUT POT LEADING TO OTHER DRUGS...IT REALLY SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT...HMMM! IT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE AND A PERSONAL RISK. "
Simple Man wrote on Oct 13, 2008 11:35 AM:
" Kalamamom, maybe we do, maybe we have been there or know people that steered the wrong way...hmmm. maybe we are the lucky ones that realized what what we were doing before it got too bad... and maybe we made choices to change directions...hmmmm!!!! What about it? "
akasha merkabah wrote on Oct 14, 2008 10:53 PM:
" Plain and simple....."if" this was such a "BIG deal" Where was The KPDept. and their drug sniffing dog while all this MJ was "supposedly" right across the street. Could they have been at the Rebel Truckstop? Or out of town writing tickets out of the city limits? In my day you had police and they were in town at all times in case they were needed, and the deputy Sheriffs took care of Cowlitz County. Maybe it should be that way again so the KP Dept knows whats going on in town. I think there is enough going on to keep them busy right at home.(not half way to Woodland!) "
Ms. Z wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:24 AM:
" Whatever: I was thinking the exact same thing...sort of. When on topic of immigration you hear "I am not a racist, but it is the LAW and that makes them CRIMINALS" but when it comes to the subject of pot you hear "They are such NICE PEOPLE and it is a STUPID LAW!" So I guess depending on which side of the fence you sit determines which laws are important enough to abide by? "
harligrl45 wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:05 PM:
" Nice or not they broke the law. Whether it was selling pot or meth, it is still illegal. They knew what they were doing so they deserve what they get. "
legal medicine wrote on Oct 27, 2008 7:56 AM:
" All of you people that are comparing pot to meth and heroin or even alcohol are comparing apples to something more like wood blocks than oranges. Yes pot IS currently illegal for private use by normal citizens. Although our own government has reported the only adverse long term effects of marijuana use are similar to that of long term tobacco use. Currently ten states (including the one we all live in) recognize marijuana as a medicine. Any mature adult with any sort social life, weather knowingly or not deals with pot smokers on a daily basis, these people are where you shop at your churches, your work and probably everywhere else you go when you leave your house. I'm so tired of the term "gateway drug" taking any drug is a conscious decision of the user. If pot is such a gateway drug then why arnt prescription medications (some of which are actually opiates) called gateway drugs if you are unaware opiates are in heroin and morphine. So why isnt there prescription heroin? Its because these drugs kill people. My cousin died four years ago of a prescription drug overdose from a pain patch that was prescribed to him. How often have you read about someone dying from an overdose on pot? NEVER because it doesnt happen. Have you heard of a stoned person going the wrong direction on the freeway and killing a family driving along. It doesnt happen because stoners are sitting at home with the munchies. "
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